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Subject: Donia Nachshen
Date: 2 Jan 97
From: Peter Clement
Brian, In doing a search for "Nachshen", besides your brother's
company and the US Air Force (Michael N. is a Lieutenant) and some scientific
papers and stuff from probably Danny and Judy, and your home page, up
came this entry! Where is Avrum when we need him. he could have told us
who she is. Her age could make her a daughter of one of Zaide' brothers
or she could be Zaide's sister or even Mutzi's wife? Anyone have any ideas?
Glenn, might your dad or Izzie know? Is Izzie on e-mail yet? So, Brian
what's the address of the NFC home page?
(NACHSEN #A3331) [NACHSHEN, DONIA, illus.] France,
Anatole. The Red Lily. 325 pp. Trans. Winifred Stephens. Illus. with
roughly a dozen plates, 23 in-text chapter illus., pictorial endpapers,
and coverdecorations by Donia Nachshen (b.1903 in Russia, studied
at Slade School of Fine Arts, London). 8vo, black cloth stamped in
gold, t.e.c., side edge uncut. New York, Dodd Mead, 1930. First illustrated
ed. About fine, unopened. $60.00.
To: Peter Clement
From: Brian Nation
Subject: Re: Donia Nachshen
I'm ahead of you here. I found a book (The Way of All Flesh)
with illustrations by Donia Nachshen nearly thirty years ago.
I wrote someone, Issie I think, but never heard back. I've come
across a few more mystery Nachshens over the years, too.
Date: 03 Jan 1997
From: Gary Nachshen
Subject: Re: Donia Nachshen
There is a whole family of Nachshens in New York and New Jersey. I
spoke to one of them, a lawyer named Sandra Nachshen in northern New
Jersey, last year, but she didn't know that much about the family background.
(She's about 30.) She did tell me that the senior generation, now in
their 80s, consists of three brothers named Joseph, Louis, and Samuel(!)
They live in the Bronx, and they came to the U.S. early in the century.
She thinks they're from the Ukraine. Julie pulled all their addresses
and telephone numbers off the computer last week, and she can send them
to you if you want them. Sandra didn't seem too interested in following
up on any possible family connection when I spoke to her (she struck
me as much more assimilated than we are), but I would heartily encourage
Issie, Peter, or you to pursue this, perhaps with one of the more senior
members of their family. As you are well aware of my computer literacy
limitations, I would ask if you could pass this message along to Peter
and anyone else you think would be interested. Happy Hunting, and Happy
New Year.
Jan 4,1997
Mazel Tov to all!! Bev and Peter are thrilled to announce and welcome
their fourth ainicle to life on earth.Wow!!! The latest addition to
the Nachshen Family Circle is a healthy baby boy, Kynan (rhymes with
(sky-man) weighing in at just over 7 pounds. He arrived on Saturday
January 4 to his mother, Bronwen (who is in India!! with husband Todd
and number one son, Gaelan, 20.5 months old) Bronwen spent 3 hours in
labour, with Todd at her side, while Bubbie Bev (in India for the occasion)
looked after Gaelan, who was fast asleep at the time. Mom and new son
were brought home from the hospital by Todd within a few hours of the
birth. According to Bev, the little baby looks like Bronnie did when
she was born. Everyone is doing well. I am expecting them back in Canada
at the end of this month. Love and Wow! Peter
Subject: who is
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997
From: Peter Clement
Question: who is Elisa Idman, the person under Elliot Goldman? a child?
a wife? why don't I know?
Peter
ps. Brian my email address on this window shows compuserve. should
be pclement@netidea.com
What a fabulous job, Tzini!!! You deserve a medal. (does anyone have
one they can send him?)
Subject: Wow you did it!
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997
From: Peter Clement
Wow Wow wow!!!! Kol Ha Kavod!!! Tzini!!! (means way to go in Hebrew!!!)
My computer has been down for acouple of days so I just got a peek at
it. Terrific!!! Your Zaide would be proud!! I'm off to Procter tomoroow,
if I make it, I'll be back (if I make it) on the 23rd. Bev returns on
the 27th and Bronnie and family around first week of Feb. Good work.
Subject: family tree
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997
From: Stan Nashen
First visit to the new web sight tonite & it looks great ! Congrats
! Minor corrections to the Mintzie version of the Family tree - Franci
is not spelled with an "E" at the end; my bride was born in
Saranac Lake, N.Y. (although spent her formative years in frigid Winnipeg).
Unfortunately, you were exactly correct on the date of birth ! We will
keep visiting the sight and will contribute whenever possible. Bye for
now
Subject: our forefather
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997
From: Peter Clement
A rabbinic midrash of Nachshon ben Aminadav, prince of Juda... Moses,
before the seas will part, needs some brave soul to enter the raging (?)
waters. Nachshon enters the water. He goes in up to his belly, no parting...up
to his neck... no parting. He had faith, he believed, so he goes up to
his nose, takes his last breath before submering totally and at that point
the waters part. This was told to me by Reb Mordechai Wosk. Peter Clement
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 From: Alex Farrell Subject: What a wonderful family
to be part of!!! Brian, What a terrific job!!! This is my first visit
to this wonderful site. I am sure to revisit very often. Just a note to
say; ALL YOU GUYS ARE JUST TERRIFIC. If I was a little more computer litterate
I would love to do the FERA family tree. Could you guys send some advice?
Al & Silka Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 From: Alex Farrell Subject: Kynan
& Gilly Kynan and Gilly Fitleberg have the same birth date. January
4th. They should become soul brothers! Silka & Al Date: Thu, 09 Jan
1997 From: Phil Braendel Subject: Web site Brian, this is terrific. Only
a true artist could come up with an idea like this. I told Rhonda about
the site. She should be checking in soon. Date: 11 Jan 97 From: Avi Crane
Subject: Re: Web Site update Brian, We all looked at the wedsite this
past week and we so amazed and proud. I wrote an e mail to you from the
website, but it would not go thru. This is such a wonderful project you
have done. Makes us all feel proud- and is great for the younger generation.
Regards AVI CRANE Reply: If you're trying to send Mail or News from Netscape
you have to go into OPTIONS and then MAIL AND NEWS PREFERENCES (or just
type "ALT O, M") and configure the settings there. If you don't
know what they are contact your Internet Provider. Usually, they have
online help files that give you the correct settings.
Jan 9,1997
News: Melanie spent two weeks in Texas with Shari and James and her
new cousin. She left Vancouver the 26th with my winter boots and gloves
because it was freezing down there. Well.....you know what happened
here..we got snowed in and in Texas mid 70's and sun. The boots stayed
in the suitcase and my sneakers got a mid-winter workout. All is well
here. Congatulations on a wonderful endeavor. (Sent by Phil Braendel)
Jan 10,1997
CONGRATUATIONS ON A FANTASTIC WEB PAGE... Everything is great by us,
we've had a mild winter until today (Jan. 10). We would like to wish
everyone a healthy and happy New Year. Lexie and Matty said to me to
send hugs and kisses to everyone. Should anyone want to contact us our
E-Mail address is pcdemo@total.net and our fax number is 514-683-1088.
Keep in touch... (Sent by Mandi Fitleberg/Ronny Sananes)
Jan 11,1997
Congratulations on a very impressive website and for saving me all of
the headaches of creating it myself. This is a wonderful tool to keep
in touch with everyone everywhere everyday!!
By the way, Brian, please add my finacee, Judy Hagshi, born 28 OCT
70 in Toronto, to the tree. You can put our wedding date only after
we're married though, so please wait for the invite!! She's so superstitious.
You know the way Morrocan's are!!
I just returned last night from a fantastic trip to Basel, Switzerland
(where Herzl held the 1st Zionist conference 100 years ago and declared
his vision of a Jewish Homeland) and Israel.
Regards to one and all and please add us to your address books at yad@total.net.
- Glenn J. Nashen / Judy Hagshi
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Jan 12,1997
Marley (5), in playing, "find the synonym for..." says,
"herb" is a plant and "herb" , like a herb of
cows. Kaitlyn (3) says to Marley... "if you're not going to
share with me, Marley, go to your room." (this submission hereby
gives permission for 'news' stories of children and ainiclach. Most
of us don't have the luxury of seeing each others' kids, so I'm
sure we'd all enjoy at least hearing some 'chochmas' of our cousins'
kids. Peter.
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Subject: 1, 2, 3
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 97
From: Peter Clement
Tzin
1) do you think the "mail" and "news" should
be one page?
2) the choices you have at the bottom of each page, could they be
put vertically on the left hand side.?
3) did I tell you how great I think the page is? I'm still excited
about it. You've started a phenomenon as significant as the creation
of the NFC itself. I mean it. Peter
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Reply From: Brian
1) That's probably a good idea. Less confusing. (We all know Nachshens
are slow-witted.) I'll work on it.
2) I've been thinking about "frames". (I have to learn
them.) Then there could be an index always visible. But I think
it would be better at the bottom of the page because the trees are
so wide and I wanted them to be completely visible on one page without
having to scroll. But sometimes I think frames just clutter the
screen. I'll think about it. Maybe we could vote.
3) Yes you did and I appreciate it. Maybe it's as significant as
the creation of the Nachshens themselves. Ha ha.
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Jan 14,1997
From: Stephen S Skrzydlo
Subject: constructive criticism (possible danger in comments, beware)
OK, first of all, GREAT JOB, good initiative setting this up. BUT
please spell my mother's name right, as we all know it isn't smart
to get on her bad side (she has other sides?) it is spelt MINTZY,
no i at the end, no e at the end just, MINTZY. There I feel much better
now. (There is a zy in both first and last names for my mom). BUH
BYE - PR BTW : Sending from where this is (at the bottom of the news
page doesn't work, it can't find news.htm)
Reply: Actually, Steven (er..I mean Stephen) I was just testing
you. No, but seriously, with a name like Sk..etc, I thought spelling
Mintzy wrong would be a nice change. As for the 2nd problem, it's
been fixed.
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Jan 19, 1997
From: Barry Nashen
Nice job, really nice! It's my first time surfing the NFC home page.
If you want to fill in some blanks, my wife, Barbara was born in Montreal
Also, her kid, Shaun (note the spelling), was also born in Montreal.
Can you add a hyperlink to my company's (Nashen + Nashen Consultants)
home page? Its URL will be www.nashen.com once I complete it in February.
Cousin Barry Reply: Thanks for the corrections. Let me know as soon
as your website's up and
running and I'll add the link. -Brian
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Jan 19,1997
From: Rhonda/Ronnie/Ruchele N.G.S.B.
N.G.S.B - that's Nachshen/Garber/Skolnick/Braendel.
Man 'o man. What an incredible web site, Brian. I feel so grateful
to be part of this family. You've done an incredible job. In the
years that our elders began the Nachshen Family Circle, I know they
never began to imagine computers and web sites and the internet.
They thought about keeping us all in touch. They wanted to keep
the love and connections alive. With so many years gone by, many
of us have moved to different parts of the world, and a regular
meeting, that includes everyone, is no longer possible. But now,
my dear cousin Tsini, you have brought us back together. You have
picked up where our parents, uncles, aunts, grandparents, great
uncles and aunts began. You have breathed life back into our Family
Circle. Once again, we can tell each other how we are, how we feel,
what we're doing. Here we have an opportunity that we've never before
had. I thank you with my heart, my cousin, for bringing back into
reach, the family members for whom I hold great esteem and love.
Your long hours of work and the love and pride you have for our
family are totally and gratefully appreciated. Swimming through
this web site has brought back so many memories. I remember seders,
and family meetings. Purim parties and the funny costumes and the
skits. Remember the beatles wigs? There's a picture somewhere of
that purim party. I think Silka may have it. I remember "bragging"
to my friends, when I was young. "I have the best and biggest
family. We're Jewish, and we have a Family Circle. The adults get
together all the time, and there are parties and get togethers for
the kids. They were impressed! And now, I'm not so young anymore,
and I can't wait to show this web site to my friends, and brag about
how wonderful our family is. Who remembers the family get together
when the kids went fishing? I think we may have been at Beaver Lake
on Mount Royal. One of George and Phyllis' sons (Glen?) caught a
fish. I was so envious. Or maybe it wasn't Beaver Lake, maybe it
was at Ile St. Helen, where we had a family picnic. Does anyone
remember more details?
Once again, this is great, Brian! I especially loved the archive
pictures and the "news and mail".
Love to all of you. If I know you well, lets "talk".
If I don't know you well, I'd love to get to know you.
Brian - here's a suggestion: How about each person doing a mini
(or maxi) biography. Then we can get to know each other a little
better. I have cousins whom I've met, but know very little about
their families and lives. Could we organized something to "introduce"
ourselves and our immediate families?
Love,
Rhonda/Ronnie/Ruchele rbraende@sfu.ca
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Jan 23,1997
From: Anne Nachshen
We got home at midnight last night, and I was checking out the Web
Page at 7.30 this morning. I can't believe how much progress you've
made in two weeks. It's really fabulous. I especially enjoyed the
old NFC minutes - I hope some more of them turn up. We had a mini
NFC meeting in Fla. - dinner with Bess and Bob, Kate and Joe, and
Phyllis and George. We were trying to tell them what's going on in
Cyberspace, and they of course would love to see everything that we
can access at the touch of a mouse, but unless someone in their branch
prints it out for them, they, and others in the family who don't have
computers are going to be left out. I'll pass everything on to the
"Larry" branch, and we'll have to hope that the other branches
do what they have to do as well. Bess said she has some old photos
and information and will send it to me and I'll send it on to you,
but they're in Fla. until April. Im having some problems and I have
some questions which maybe some of the other amateurs are having as
well, so maybe you can help. Maybe it's my computer, but I don't get
about 25% of the picture on my screen, and making it smaller doesn't
make any difference. For example, I can just see "CI" of
the word Circle in the title, and nothing to the right. On the Family
Tree, I get nothing to the right of "Gri", and also miss
a lot of the individual Family Trees. Next problem - when I print
out a Family Tree, I get a very garbled and unreadable version of
the actual tree at the top, but the printer very cleverly prints out
all the names and dates which I don't even see on the screen. Questions
- how can I print just the new additions to "News" without
printing out all the old news which I already have? Do I have to turn
off the printer part way through? - Do I have to stay online while
I'm printing, or is there a way to transfer everything on the site,
and then print it offline? Once again, our kudos to add to all the
rest. You must be putting in many, many hours on this, and how it
all works is a total mystery to us.
Love, Anne
Now I've got to go and unpack.
Reply: Regarding your problems, without seing your computer I can't
be sure what's causing your problems but, most likely, it's because
you're not using Netscape. Although Internet Explorer probably works
fine, too, I highly recomend everyone use Netscape 2 or 3. As far
as I'm concerned it's the standard and I don't check to see how
the pages work with any other browsers.
To print just the latest news use your mouse to select the text
you want, hit CONTROL and "C" (this copies the selected
text) and then File, Print, Print Selection. If your browser doesn't
have these print options you'll need to open Notepad (or any editor)
and Paste the text you've just selected into it and print from there.
You can go offline to print the pages on your screen. Your browser
should have saved at least the last few pages you've looked at.
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Jan 24,1997
From: Jack Clement
Hi, It's Dori here, acting secretary for my grandfather Jack
who
has just had his first internet experience and is almost
speechless. Actually, its not that he's speechless he's just a
little bit afraid of this crazy web email internet computer stuff.
Jack says that he wishes he was born now so that he could take
full advantage of all this internet business. His first word was
FANTASTIC. Jack's last words are that he reserves the right to
come back and visit again. A computer and modem in his future?
Who knows. Anyways health and happiness to everyone
Love and kisses,
Jack Clement and Dori Skye
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Jan 26,1997
From: Brian Nachshen
Subject: Is it Nation or is it Nachshen?
People are starting to wonder. Well, how can I spend so much time
working on this loving tribute to the Nachshen family with a name
like Nation? So, from now on, as far as this family is concerned,
it's N-a-c-h-s-h-e-n. Thank you.
-Tzini
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Jan 26,1997
From: Brian Nachshen
Subject: BC Mini-Meeting
Originally I was just gonna go out to Aldergrove today to visit
my little cousin Ruchele but now Peter's coming and Ian will be
there, too, so it looks like we're having a mini-meeting out here.
Sorry I didn't give you more notice but YOU'RE ALL INVITED. Listen,
do you know how far Aldergrove is from where I live? Montrealers
could get there quicker, so there's no excuse. See you there!
-Tzini
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Jan 26,1997
From: The Secretary General of the U.N. (United Nachshens), Mintzy
There was a meeting of most of the "first cousins" in
Montreal a few months ago. It was decided that we need to rebuild
the NFC pishka. The pishka will cover expenses for sending out the
family circle cards, printing haggadot for Pesach, putting on the
annual NFC summer barbecue, and any other activities that we may
have.
The following was agreed upon:
-- All nuclear family units will pay $25. (A "nuclear family
unit" is based on having a different address than anyone else.
Full-time students are exempt.)
-- Non-Montreal resident family units may choose to pay $10 per
family unit if they feel that they do not benefit from the activities.
-- All money should be sent to Mintzy Clement at 40 Alexis Rd, Thornhill,
Ontario, L3T 6Z9
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Jan 26,1997
From: Web Secretary from West Coast, Peter Clement
The West Coast mini-NFC meeting took place
at Ronnie's. Melanie, Ian, Ronnie, Brian, Peter and Ronnie's 19
animals were there. A medal was presented to Brian on behalf of
the entire family for launching the NFC Web Page. Brian was moved
and gave a heartfelt acceptance speech. A wonderful meal prepared
by Ronnie was followed by a heated diction discussion wherein Ronnie
informed us that we are all pronouncing words with "ng"
incorrectly. If you want to know how to properly pronounce "think"
"sing" "hanger" just remember how Ricki Ricardo
would say it.
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Jan 27,1997
From: "Cousin" Mike Nachshen
I am just blown away by our family's homepage! I just logged on
for the first time today I'm not gonna say what a great design it
is, how proud I am to be a part of the family, and what an important
thing it is you've done because others have already said that far
better than I could ever say it myself. However, I will say that
I'm really excited by it because it helps those of us who are geographically
separated from the main "hubs" of Nachshen activity keep
on top of things.
For those who are interested, this is what's been happening in
the great country of Texas, San Antonio detachment, of the NFC:
* I recently spent three months at the Defense Information School,
in Ft. Meade, Maryland. It was close to home, so I got a chance
to see Judy & Gary quite frequently. * Now I'm back at work---
I'm super busy, but I wouldn't have it any other way * Judy and
Gary are currently on Sabbatical in Israel right now they're having
a great time and enjoying the slow pace of life over there * I volunteered
to serve as a layleader for Kelly Air Force Base, which means that
I advise the Chaplain (and anybody else who asks) on issues that
concern the Jewish troops. * Saul is heading into his second semester
as a sophomore at Antioch College
Hopefully I'll see you at Pesach
Love to all my relatives who read this
"Cousin" Mike
BTW -- if anybody was wondering what we do in the Air Force, you
can check out our homepage http://www.af.mil
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Jan 27,1997
From: Shari, James & Katie
Hi y'all from the Fort Worth branch! Our weather has been jumping
from the 20's to the 70's (F), we never know what tomorrow will
be like. We actually had snow a couple of times. Would you believe
I have only been away for a 1 1/2 years & I already miss the
snow. Our precious daughter Katie Fera is now 10 weeks old and has
a truly sweet personalty. On her two month visit with the Dr. she
had doubled her weight to 15lbs 7 oz and grown 5 inches to 25 in.
She's solid! We're all looking forward to seeing everyone at the
seder. It's been tough meeting people here so if anyone knows people
out this way give me their number or give them ours, I could really
use some friends. Katie & I will be going to Mtl next week so
anyone interested in getting together to arrange a rendez-vous.
Brian, our congrats on this wonderful oppurtunity for everyone to
keep in touch.
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Jan 28, 1997
From: Brian Goldberg
Eileen and I can't believe what you have done for this family.
What a great way to keep everyone together. It used to be that the
elders of the family were responsible for that task, but generations
have changed and now the job seems to be yours. Obviously, you're
up to the task.
I just registered as a subscriber so pls. take note of my address.
You can reach Eileen, Robert, or me anytime.
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Jan 30, 1997
From: ruchele/rhonda/ronnie
Hi cousins, aunts, uncles, great aunts, great uncles, sister, brother
in law, mother, cousins once removed, cousins twice removed, 2nd
cousins, third cousins (did I leave anyone out?)
I'm sitting here on a quiet evening Melanie is out, and I'm eating
something for dinner that she wouldn't look at, and so I rarely
get to eat - gepareteh (keparateh?) matzo. In English, that's soggy
crackers with butter, salt and pepper. Mmmm. Who else likes this
stuff? My friends (and my daughter) don't believe me when I say
it's delicious. Anyways, while I'm eating, I'm thinking, what I
really want is a good piece of mandel broit. But the only thing
close to that in Aldergrove is biscotti, and that's not IT. Anybody
got a good recipe. I don't have Bubby Fera's and as far as I'm concerned,
she made the best. What do you think of the idea of a NFC cookbook/storybook?
We could combine the wonderful things Brian is organizing with our
favourite recipes (our parents', grandparents' and our own recipes).
What do you think. I would be more than happy to nominate my mother
(Elka) to put this all together, as she is the recipe QUEEN. Just
kidding. I'd be very happy to have the opportunity to work on such
a project. Let me know what your ideas are, and also please submit
recipes and stories for us to get started with.
For the record: Hebonics - Jewish English - which Peter Clement
speaks EXTREMELY well, calls for hard "NG"s. So if you
say "sing" in Hebonics, you pronounce the "g".
HOWEVER, as much as Peter Clement does not wish to recognize the
correct Canadian/American/British pronunciation, he will have to
take his head out of Yiddish clouds and leave the "g"
off the end of words ending in "ng". He conceded a bit,
and now wishes to speak like Ricky Ricardo, and pronounce the "ng"
with an an "n" in the front of the mouth like in "noon"
instead of the "n" in the back of the mouth like in "hang".
Everyones' opinion on this important matter is requested.
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Jan 30, 1997
From: Glenn J. Nashen
By the way, in case nobody else caught it, the correct spelling
of Nachshen (this could be tricky spelling it in Hebrew with only
English letters)is:
Nun - Chet -Shi'in - Vav - Nun (sofit).
If you don't understand that we'll figure another way to spell
it for you.
I've copied this to IN for verification purposes, but after 13
years in Hebrew school, 10 trips to Israel, and Bar Mitzvah money
still earning interest, I think I can spell my name!!
Please advise.
Reply: I was afraid of this. Actually, Peter already pointed out
my spelling mistake but, you see, I only got about 80 bucks Bar
Mitzvah loot. And I never graduated from the Talmud Torah. And when
everyone was going to Israel I took into my head to go to Cuba,
where Hebrew's about as popular as English in a Caisse Populaire
lunchroom.I got the spelling from a faded newspaper clipping under
a picture of my Uncle Avrumand not
all the letters were too clear. I will fix this soon as I find my
old Talmud Torah primer, which I still have here somewhere. My apologies.
-Tzini
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Feb 1, 1997
From: Brian N.
Re: Letter from Ronnie
I think Ronnie's NFC cookbook idea's great. C'mon, start sending
those recipes in! I'm going to start things off by posting a brief
exchange of letters the Clements and I had recently concerning who
made the best latkes. So take a look here.
By the way, as I mention, Polly had no recipes. To learn how to
make any of her wonderful dishes I'd have to get her to make them
while I took notes. When she no longer had a kitchen she'd make
the dishes mentally. I may have to tape her doing this and post
her recipes as sound files
Also, on the Table of Contents page there's a link for the Jewish
Holiday Kitchen and, also, if you use HotBot and type in the name
of any dish you'll come up with many wonderful recipes. Throw out
your cookbooks! There are also a number of great cooking newsgroups.
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Feb 1, 1997
From: ruchele/rhonda/ronnie
I read the Latke Letters (I think that would be a good name for
our book. and I could actually 'hear' the voices of the authors.
It was as if we were all sitting around a table again, coffee, tea
and food all over. There are the crumpled napkins, broken cookies,
half eaten pieces of cake. Can you see them? Someone's mother says
"enough, already", finish the cake, or it'll get dry".
Someone else inquires, "Dry?" Did you see the sale at
the Hudon's Bay?" Another voice, "voose for a sale?"
Then maybe Silka says, "I found the BEST place for buying blouses.
At least half price". Then a discussion about the best places
to buy blouses, shoes, and of course, purses - leather. This discussion
is not completed because one of the kids come in crying. Fell down.
Lots of hugs, kisses, and three new discussions at the same time
about a variety of interests. Did you ever sit back and play the
game of trying to follow all the conversations at one time? I remember
it getting confusing because quite often one person could be in
more than one conversation, and it was hard to tell which one they
were talking in. (Can a person "talk in" a conversation?"
Thanks again Tzini, for bringing these memories to life.
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Feb 2, 1997
From: Peter
Re: Hebongics vs. Enlish Debate (see Ronnie's previous
letter)
(to be spoken to the cadence and cubanics of Ricky Ricard: as in
"loooosssie..." Ronnnnnie: jhou are makin me maaaaaad!
Some of you may wonder why there are so many silent consonants
in English, (e.g. fight, talk, thought). Well, when Gutenburg invented
the printing press, the SPELLING of words stopped evolving and changing,
but the pronounciation continued to evolve. Thus, once can conclude
that all the now silent consonants were actually correctly pronounced.
There fore, (using Gresha's logic), it is proper to pronounce the
consonants. Therefore, Ronnie, you are wrong. "Sing" is
said as it's spelled even in Englishenglish. unless you want us
to all sound like Ricky R. respectfully Peter
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Feb 3, 1997
From: Ellie
Tzini, I am speechless. This is more than terrific, wonderful and
absolutely great. I just cant find the words to express how I feel
about this. I just found the site yesterday. I have been sitting
here and reading all the mail. It brought me to tears. I am so glad
you are so brilliant and came up with this wonderful idea.
I love the minutes of the early family meetings. I am sure someone
must have some more of those lying around.
I was secretary one year. I would look in the attic (isn't that
where all family treasures are kept?}but I don't have one. I will
do a search tho and see if I can come up with anything.
I think news and mail is great. What a way to keep up with family
news.
The cookbook is also a brainstorm. I wrote a note yesterday, but
forgot to enclose the recipe. This will follow.
Max and I just came back from a cruise. It was wonderful. I never
wanted to take a cruise, now I wonder why. Next to Israel it was
the best vacation ever.
Shari is coming to visit tomorrow and I can't wait to see my new
grandaughter. I did see her when she was born but she is almost
3 months now and Shari says "you will freak out when you see
her".
Love to all NFC members
Elka
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Feb 3, 1997
From: Rucheleh
Re: Hebonics
It is such a shame that two cousins in the NFC should have a fight
over the internet. What (vat) can I tell you? Peter, my dear cousin,
If today, was the day of Guttenberg, which, by all my calculations,
it isn't, then yes, you may want to pronounce all the consonants.
However, since I have so much respect for you, my elder, I did some
research. the book "Fundamentals of Voice and Diction",
Fourth Edition, by Lyle V. Mayer, Wm. C. Brown Company Publishers,
Dubuque Iowa, 1974 (a little closer the the time you spoke of) dedicates
over 7 pages the this particular speech difficuly:
If you say stinger and linger you will not that the 'ng' is not
pronounced the same in both words. "Stinger" is pronouned
"sting-er". The 'n' is simply the nasal sound. There is
no plosive 'hard g' in the word. "Linger", however is
pronounced "ling-ger". Here the 'ng' represents a combination
of the nasal n and the plosive g.
No wonder, then, that we occasionally have trouble with 'ng'. Once
again we might note that English spelling is of very little help.
To add to the confusion, in certain foreign languagues and dialects
'n' is almost invariable followed by a 'g' or a 'k'. Thus, individuals
whose language background includes Yiddish, Slavic, Spanish, Hungarian,
or Italian, even though the speaker may be native born, are often
prone to add teh so-called "ng-click". Charactereisticaaly,
"sing" then becomes "sing-g" or "sing-k"
and "hang" becomes "hang-g" or "hang-k".
Following this passage is some help. I thought you might like to
practice:
How can the 'hard g' be eliminated? Your sense of hearing and feeling
will help. You will remember that the back of the tongue is raised
against the velum or soft palate to make "ng". If you
will say "sing" you will be able to feel the contact.
Say "sing" again, but this time, listen quite carefully
to the nasal sound, prolong it slightly, and as you are prolonging
the "ng", pull your tongue away from the velum. If this
is done, you will not add the "hard g".
Read the following with exaggerated slowness, always prolonging
the "ng". Pull the tongue away from the velum during the
production of the nasal rather than after, and you will probably
be able to eliminate the after-click.
Peter, if you would like some exercises to practice with, I can
send them to you.
I hope this helps.
Oh, just a last note about pronouncing "ng" as an "n"
at the front of the mouth like the word "noon", the author
says the following:
The individual who says: "As I was standin' on the corner,
I saw the mob comin'... is gulty of a very common fault..... Those
who insiste on saying: comin', goin', thinkin'.... will generally
attract the wrong kind of attention to their speech, not to mention
unfavorable criticism. College graduate job-seekers, otherwise well
qualified, have been rejected in interviews because their speech
was marred by this particular manerism.
Case closed.
And finally, a little son' for you:
Peter, Peter, I'm so sad
to hear that you're getting so so mad
I never meant to be so bad
Forgive me please,
I'll be so very very glad.
Love, Rucheleh
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Feb 4, 1997
From: Peter
That cookbook is so funny I just platzed while reading it. The
Latke Letters are hilarious. But Elka's recipe where she leaves
out the recipe cracked me up for 10 minutes. Yes, Abie had good
taste, 'cause Fera's borscht was an incomparable highlight of Pesach.
Let's have that recipe, Ellie!
Hey, couldn't someone give their old computer to the New York cousins,
so they could join us!
Reply: The recipe has arrived! Have a look.
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Feb 7, 1997
From: Glenn J. Nashen
February 6 marked my grandfather's (Avrum Nachshen Z"L) 101st
anniversary of his birth in Pogrebische. Although he has been gone
for 13 years, his memory, and that of his departed brothers and
sisters, lives on each day in our hearts and in our minds. I am
sure that they are all looking down from above with great big Nachshen
smiles seeing how all of their descendants are still connected as
in yesteryear. Happy Birthday "Big Z" (That was our Zaiyda's
affectionate nickname).
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Feb 13, 1997
From: Ronnie
Hey everyone, where are all your wonderful recipes? Please send
them in. If you don't have a favourite recipe to submit, perhaps
you have one to request. Something delicious from a family get-together
maybe? A secret you've been wanting to know for a while, maybe?
Ask, ask...
Mandi - Please send in the Bubby Cookie Recipe!!
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Valentine's Day, 1997
From: Shari Cox
Katie & I have returned from Montreal where there were mountains
of snow. Living where the weather has gone in the 80's (just two
weekends ago) I realized I miss the snow. It actually felt great
to see all the of snow everywhere. Much to my surprise,since I always
wanted out of the cold. Even the cold wasn't a problem for me but
Katie had a major problem with being bundled up all the time. It
was great being at "home" and showing Katie off to as
many people as time would allow. James, Katie & I will be in
Montreal for pesach and look forward to seeing everyone.
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Feb 22, 1997
From: Rafi
Hi guys. I'm in L.A. this weekend visiting my aunt. I was just
showing my cousin Nathan the website and he was very impressed.
He's a big city lawyer and has offered to negotiate big contracts
with companies who want to use this family tree as entertainment.
Ciao
Reply: Maybe too late. I'm talkin' to Disney. Also, Air Canada
wants to offer this page as their in-flight magazine. -Tzini
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Feb 24, 1997
From: Issie Nachshen
Hi Family, I'm o.k. Write...my email address: nash@minet.ca. Regards
to all.
Shalom,
IN
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Feb 24, 1997
From: Issie Nachshen
Hi everyone: Hope all is well. The NFC page is wonderful, thanks
to Tzini. Keep in touch, I'm the "new kid on the block",
with my email--address--nash@minet.ca. Keep well, Shalom, love you
all.....IN
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Feb 24, 1997
From: Brian
Subject: Polly's Birthday!
This coming Saturday, March 1st, Polly will
be celebrating her 90th birthday.
As you know, Polly is our premier elder, the head of the family,
the Matriarch,
and one of only two in our family of her generation left to us so
Saturday will
be a very special day for all of us to celebrate with her.
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Feb 25, 1997
From: Mintzy
I have a request - from the youngest of the first cousins to the
oldest of the first cousins.
WE WANT ISSIE'S PICKLE RECIPE!!!!!!!!!!!
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Feb 25, 1997
From: Brian
I received the following email today and have forwarded copies
to Gary and Issie for response.
From: AinleyS@aol.com
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997
To: nation@netcom.ca
Subject: Jack Nachshen
Hi Brian
I read sometime ago the eulogy to JN but have not found the time
to EMAil until now. The interest is that I am part of the NACHSHEN
family from Russia that settled in UK at the turn of the century.
Much of the Eulogy reminded me of my own Grandfather, Maurice Nachshen
1899-1977. I wonder if the two Nachshens were related - perhaps
you / Gary could write with more information and I will try and
do the same.
Please EMail me - ainleys@aol.com
Regards
Simon Ainley
London
Note: All letters ensuing from the above, concerning the UK/Israel/USA
Nachshens and our possible connection, are in a seperate page: The
Nachshen/Nachshen Letters.
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Feb 25, 1997
From: Issie Nachshen
Hi, soon recipes for pickles and my own specialty (patent pending)
called -a MAICHEL--TRANSLATION=AN IMPROVISATION OF A SPECIAL DISH.
Will try contact London.
Regards all. I.N.
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